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tfheen Mon, 30 Aug 2004 - A followup on the email clients thread - gnus

Some people recommended I take a look at gnus as an IMAP client. I cheated, since I had most of my gnus setup already in place. Gnus is like a battleship -- it is big and sturdy, but a bit slow. (It probably didn't help that I ran it over a forwarded SSH X connection.) It has good IMAP support, it seems.

Gnus also has this excellent concept of "only show folders with unread mails in them", this means that I don't get a zillion folders lying about without anything interesting in them. Listing them is a short L away, so it's not a big issue to find them when you need them. Also, autosubscribing to new groups is easy, just add ^nnimap to the gnus-auto-subscribed-groups variable. It would be nicer if it used the subscribed list from the server, but evidently, it's not going to do that.

I guess a screenshot is also in order, so you can see how well-ordered gnus is, compared to wanderlust. Gnus screenshot

(And no comments on me having a lot on unread mail, gnus seems to act up a bit until I've entered all the folders with it, showing the total number of mails, not the unread number.)

[10:08] | tech | A followup on the email clients thread - gnus

tfheen Mon, 30 Aug 2004 - A followup on the email clients thread - wanderlust

As I got a bunch of feedback from different people about different clients, I promised to try them and give some feedback on how they worked.

So, I've taken a look at wanderlust. It's written in elisp, but by some Japanese. I generally dislike software written by Japanese people as their docs suck (most Japanese can't write English, it seems), so it is often difficult to get working. So also with wanderlust. After a bit of wrestling, I discovered that it was using openssl for handling the SSL tunnel, while openssl was really unhappy about the fact that my mail server is using a self-signed certificate. After putting said certificate into the right place and whacking c_rehash to do the right thing, it now seems to work fairly well.

Wanderlust is fast, very fast. I really dislike the default folder overview, mostly for two reasons: it is cluttered: Wanderlust
screenshot

And there is no way to sort the folders on criteria. I don't want to maintain a .folders file with all my folders, they are created on the mail server automatically, and I want my MUA to pick them up as they appear.

If somebody knows how to customize the folder look a bit, I might stay with wanderlust. Also, getting it to actually understand that IMAP folders form a tree would be most useful.

[10:06] | tech | A followup on the email clients thread - wanderlust

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